Adultery

[wetmahpants]

Why do people cheat on others? It's not right! I understand that someone who is married might fall in love with another person, but it's still not right! [glow=red,2,300]CHEATING IS WRONG, NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES.[/glow] If you love someone, why marry another person in the first place?

[unknown]

I agree.

My dad had an affair, and while I don't think it was physical, it still broke our family apart, and things have only gotten worse since then.

[wetmahpants]

Exactly my point. Adultery can do terrible things, like, as you said, break apart families. It really is horrible. If you're married and you fall in love with someone else, then for Christ's sake don't sneak around! Divorce!

So what about Christianity? Do you agree with Christian teachings in general?

[unknown]

Yeah, I'm a Christian.

I go to church, but if a church says something wrong I'll stop going to it because I think God wants us to go to church, but it's not required to go to heaven. I believe in heaven and hell, and I believe all you have to do to get to heaven is except Jesus Christ as the risen Lord and Savior.

[phantomusician]

I agree with "unknown," whoever that is

Christianity CAN be good, or it can be bad. Take Catholics for example: they make things up that sound cool and say "Have faith" as their justification. I want to believe that my sister is behind me with some money for me because I love money. Well, let me tell everyone that I believe that, and that if you have faith, it's probably true. If only the Catholic church would "turn around" and see that there is nobody there.


Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyway, cheating is wrong. Another thing I hate about the Catholic church (don't get me started here lol) is their divorce policy. No divorce AT ALL. Well people sometimes believe that the person they marry is right for them. Sometimes they're not. Sometimes theres no way to tell. And its abusing the sanctity of marriage by being with someone you don't really love. If you are in love with someone OTHER than who you promised yourself to, you NEED to be honest. Cheating--going behind the back of someone who loves you--is absolutely wrong. To be honest is to be truly happy. Maybe ignorance is bliss, but it never lasts.

[wetmahpants]

Christianity is made out of PARTIAL truths. There are some things that truly are God's teachings, but there are also things made up by men that people have tried to pass off as God's word. Generally, I don't really agree with Christianity teachings. I read the Bible and I choose what to believe and what not to believe. Though I go to Church each Sunday, I don't agree with my pastor's views.

And Andy, I agree 100% about the whole cheating thing. But, to play Devil's Advocate, what if a girl named "Frieda" married this guy called "Paul." They thought they were in love. Then "David" comes along. Frieda falls in love with David, a lot more than she'd ever felt for Paul. However, she is already married to Paul. David's poor; Paul's rich. If Frieda was to divorce Paul and run away with David, there would be no way she could support herself. In this case, could Frieda cheating on Paul be justified?

[PhantomMusician]

Oh God I hate hypothetical questions. I would say Frieda should wait until David is back on his feet.

And about the Bible. It was in Latin. Meaning: the Christian leaders knew what was in it, and the common people didn't. Therefore, clergy could add whatever they want and people would never know until the printing press was invented and the Bible was translated and distributed in the common language. We talked about this in History class today. The priests could, and probably DID add things into the Bible to scare people. That's why I choose what to believe from the Bible and what not to believe. For example, MAYBE the consensus of clergymen felt that homosexuality was immoral. They add instances of God completely murdering entire CITIES for homosexual behavior occurring there. I don't believe for one instant that God would ever destroy cities because there were gay men in it, which is the basis of the story of Lot. Hell, some could even argue that clergy removed the gnostic gospels, and thus all instances of Jesus in love with Mary Magdalene. Maybe Jesus WAS married to Mary. Maybe he DID leave the church to HER. But clergymen were intimidated by women in the church, they were extremely sexist, and still are, and they could've changed it if they wanted to.

Just speculation.

[jedichick070588]

But we can go back to the original (in most cases) documents that today we call the Bible and see if any mis-translations happened.

It's not like people back then would just add things to the Bible to make themselves right. That's what people say the Catholics did but they didn't. The wrote other rules in other books saying they were guides to live great lives. They never claim those rules are from the Bible, they claim they are from men of God.

Why not take the Bible for everything it says? That's like listening to your history teacher talking about the crusades and deciding you don't like a part of it and choose to ignore it. Even though you're ignoring something doesn't mean it's not true. Same with the Bible. You either accept all of it or none of it.

[Ho Chi Minh]

jedichick070588 said:

But we can go back to the original (in most cases) documents that today we call the Bible and see if any mis-translations happened.

It's not like people back then would just add things to the Bible to make themselves right. That's what people say the Catholics did but they didn't. The wrote other rules in other books saying they were guides to live great lives. They never claim those rules are from the Bible, they claim they are from men of God.

Can you back this up with any verifiable evidence? History is based on historical records, visual evidence, pictures, etc. The first version of the bible was not even written untill 100 years after Jesus was crusified. Most stories over time lose the message they were originally trying to send. Ever played telephone? There are numerous times where the message ends differently than it started.

It all depends on what a person heard and how they interpretted it. It took 100 years for the first person to write about Jesus. His life and story could have been very different from what was written, and it has been two-thousand years of till now of the bible being rewritten and retranslated etc.

I mean hell, for all we know Jesus and his disciples were early tree hugging hippies who sat around and smoke pot all day...

[jedichick070588]

Yeah, I can back up what I said with evidence.

You say the first book of the New Testament was written 100 years after Jesus was killed. That's wrong. The first book was written only 30 or 40 years after Jesus was killed. That means that eye witnesses were still around. If something false was written about Jesus, you would have lots of people saying that the information you gave was wrong and the document would have been destroyed.

True, the first version of the Bible was compiled later on but the men of the day didn't just write what they felt like writing, they complied the scrolls of writing they could find and they sat down and decided what to put in the Bible and what to leave out. This isn't as contridicting as it sounds. There were certain ways of writing and if something was written later than that way, experts could tell.

About the disciples and Jesus being tree-huggers and smoking pot? Why would Jesus allow himself to be killed if all he had to say was "I'm lying about being the Son of God. I just wanted to see how far I could take it". So why didn't he? Becouse he was who he said he was.

Eventually almost all of the disciples were killed for their faith, if they knew it to be false then why die for it? Why suffer for something that you know is false when all you have to do is denounce it? They didn't, they died for their faith like thousands of other early maryters.

Just out of curiosity, do you believe Alexander the Great actually lived? The only reason we beileve he lived and accomplished all he did was archeologists found only a handful of documents that were written 500-900 years after Alexander died. You do know that most of history is based on just scraps on writing that are hundreds of years de facto? So why is Jesus being disputed?

[haoliyou080]

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